Shawn “JAY-Z” Carter sat down with CNN’s Van Jones for the premiere episode of The Van Jones Show.
The Grammy-winning musician offered his thoughts on a wide range of topics, including the #MeToo movement and President Donald Trump’s recent “shithole countries” comments.
“It is disappointing and it’s hurtful,” JAY-Z said of Trump’s infamous comments regarding immigrants from countries such as Haiti.
Someone needs to inform @realdonaldtrump that I ALREADY asked Jay Z whether black employment figures redeem Trump’s presidency. And Jay’s answer last night on the #VanJonesShow was POWERFUL !!! … Watch the VIDEO for yourself: https://t.co/7Sv3rHKkmW https://t.co/jbHpkKOM5o
— Van Jones (@VanJones68) January 28, 2018
“Everyone feels anger, but after the anger, it’s real hurtful. Because it’s looking down at a whole population of people, and it’s so misinformed, because these places have beautiful people and beautiful everything. This is the leader of the free world speaking like this…somewhere along his lineage something happened to him. Something happened to him, and he is expressing it in this sort of way.”
Jones asked JAY-Z about his thoughts on Trump’s actions during his presidency, particularly as they pertain to African Americans and “dropping black unemployment.” Jones asked JAY-Z if those actions made Trump a good leader. “No, because it’s not about money at the end of the day,” the rapper responded. “Money doesn’t equate to happiness. It doesn’t. That’s missing the whole point. You treat people like human beings. That’s the main point.”
Somebody please inform Jay-Z that because of my policies, Black Unemployment has just been reported to be at the LOWEST RATE EVER RECORDED!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 28, 2018
On Sunday morning (Jan. 28), Trump responded with a single tweet: “Somebody please inform JAY-Z that because of my policies, Black Unemployment has just been reported to be at the LOWEST RATE EVER RECORDED!”
When asked about the current #MeToo movement aimed at gender equality and the end of sexual harassment, JAY-Z said, “It’s almost like we normalized” sexual harassment. “For women to go to work knowing that this sort of abuse was happening every day, you can look logically and say, ‘Why would you stay there?’ ” he continued. “What is the alternative? You have to survive in America. In order to survive you have to normalize it. So for it to get uncovered and the world to correct itself — this is what has to happen.”
This article originally appeared on The Hollywood Reporter.